Bad news if you make $500,000 or more a year

[five]

Haves and Soon-to-Haves

[Armani]

See, he doesn't care that that a higher rate of taxation is incredibly harder on those with a lower income. and that its incredibly easier on those making the absolutely highest income. To him it's basically you're own fault for not being a millionaire, and if your government needs to cut daycare funding, teaching jobs, health care spending, meals for low-income students, etc in order to pay off the deficit

lol the amount of times i've heard this completely overblown response. although i guess there is some truth to it, since your sarcastic comment about fault implies that it's so absurd for people to be accountable in this day and age. well all make choices in our lives that direct our paths, so we have to be accountable. i'm currently dead broke, and that's my fault because of the choices i've made. however much money i make years down the road will be heavily influenced by those choices; it will be my fault. so your over-dramatic depiction aside, i suppose i do agree in a way that we all have some fault in where our lives end up.

and the province isn't asking for help, i don't think there's a 'request' aspect to a tax hike. if they were simply asking them to help the less wealthy, that would be charity. i'm all for charity, even now while I'm a poor student i give money to charity. but that isn't the case here.

we aren't ever going to agree because we have fundamentally different views on how the world should operate, so this is pointless in the end.

[SubHuman]

lol the amount of times i've heard this completely overblown response. although i guess there is some truth to it, since your sarcastic comment about fault implies that it's so absurd for people to be accountable in this day and age. well all make choices in our lives that direct our paths, so we have to be accountable. i'm currently dead broke, and that's my fault because of the choices i've made. however much money i make years down the road will be heavily influenced by those choices; it will be my fault. so your over-dramatic depiction aside, i suppose i do agree in a way that we all have some fault in where our lives end up.

and the province isn't asking for help, i don't think there's a 'request' aspect to a tax hike. if they were simply asking them to help the less wealthy, that would be charity. i'm all for charity, even now while I'm a poor student i give money to charity. but that isn't the case here.

we aren't ever going to agree because we have fundamentally different views on how the world should operate, so this is pointless in the end.

while i agree with the last part of what you said, it seems that you are ignoring the vastly different circumstances that people face in their lives that affect their economic prospects.. and by that i mean specifically those circumstances for which they are clearly not responsible.. and there seems to be an underlying belief that the role of government should be to do nothing about that, and let those people who need help just hold out hope that some charitable organization will step in.. not to sound like a moralizing cunt but that suggests a rather impoverished view of what it means to be a citizen.. but yeah you're right, we have a fundamental difference of philosophical outlook so obviously no one is going to be proven right or wrong.. is what it is

[dj_dro]

Armani just curious...
what do you go to school for?

[Zeb]

well its a good thing I'm poor and spend all my money on hangovers and bad decisions.

[Monk-e]

In the future there will be no currency, only zule

[oldtyme]

rich/poor aside.

is there anything in this budget ear-marked for any increased oversight in to welfare and disability fraud?

[pali]

Tax the rich. People that make more than 500k a year obviously have extra to spare. There's no need for greediness. Besides, most people in that tax bracket are so smart and capable they can find other ways to make even more money. That's what being successful is all about, not letting any external force hold you back from getting what you want. 2% extra tax will make no difference.

[JackVanPimpe]

ohhhh they're so rich! what should they care? i bet they care a lot, because i bet a good portion of those people worked their asses off to get to that point.

There are only 24 hours in a day, man. I think most people work their asses off within those 24 hours. Ask a single mother with 3 kids, working any job(s) she can find, if she works her ass off - and if she has any hope of amassing $500,000 annually in her life time.

[oldtyme]

should have made better decisions